No, Mr. Chair. You were here in August.You know that we are talking about the committee's action plan. I am proposing that we discuss the elimination of the programs and why they were cut. I would like us to hear witnesses who could explain to us why they needed those programs.
In culture, it often just takes a little help to make great things happen. The Trade Routes program, for example, provided $2 million so that artists could go on hundreds of tours around the world. The return was $25 million. That was the conclusion of a study done by 300 Canadian cultural organizations. So it is important for the Committee on Canadian Heritage to bring these people here and listen to them. After we listen, we may perhaps want to see the minister again and ask him questions.