What we've tried to do at CBC/Radio-Canada is to look at a way to best use our dollars. In the current environment, we've had conversations, for example, in Brandon, where we have told CTV that we can't afford to pay the affiliate fee anymore but will provide them with our own programming free of charge. That is the kind of conversation we had with Brandon.
I'm frankly not into the details of what we've done with the two other stations that you're referring to, but I'm very aware of what happened in Brandon.