Well, let's break this down: private broadcasters versus the CBC.
First, with private broadcasting, we maintain that these broadcast distribution undertakings need to be viewed upon as grouped, as an entire operation, including the specialty channels. We have the figures that show the specialty channels are indeed making healthy profits. In fact, their overall advertising revenue is not down.
This is a time of the market being fractured. People are starting to watch programming on the Internet, yes, but as far as additional help for specialty channels for the broadcasters is concerned, no, we don't—