The motion has been--
Evidence of meeting #42 for Canadian Heritage in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was apology.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #42 for Canadian Heritage in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was apology.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
You want to vote on clauses and amendments without debate.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger
The motion has been made by Mr. Rodriguez that we go directly to clause-by-clause.
All in favour?
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Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, can I have some clarification on what the motion is? Are you acknowledging that a motion is in order that proposes to go to clause-by-clause without debate? Is that what you're proposing--no debate to any amendments, no debate to any clauses?
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An hon. member
It's been done in other committees.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
I would like to move an amendment to Mr. Rodriguez's motion. It would add: “[...] and finish passing the bill before the end of the session”.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I appreciate the motion brought forward by my colleague. You'll recall that in the last meeting I brought forward a subamendment. I was asked to go away and bring it back in written form, which I did in good faith. But Mr. Rodriguez's motion seeks to shut down commentary on this bill.
The problem with that, as I have articulated very clearly--and Mr. Pacetti knows this well, because he has read the ACE agreement many times--is this bill seeks to do things that no previous bill has done in the past. In fact, it seeks to do things that were never in the ACE agreement at all. It seeks to do things that the witnesses who came forward.... We heard, for example, Mr. Campione remark when he was here that the most important thing was an apology. But we heard in 2005 his same testimony indicating that it was a grand day for Italian Canadians when the ACE agreement was signed, with absolutely no apology.
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
The comments have to be relevant to the motion. You just said we were going to clause-by-clause without debate. Mr. Del Mastro can talk about all the witnesses he wants, but that is not relevant.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger
One person at a time, please.
We have a point of order over here. You said it has to be relevant.
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
It has to be relevant to the debate. If he speaks for half an hour about all the witnesses, I don't see how that's relevant.