Evidence of meeting #6 for Canadian Heritage in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Lambert  Chair, John Lambert and Associates Inc.
Robin Jackson  Executive Director, Canadian Independent Film and Video Fund
Max Berdowski  Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Screen Training Centre
Marc Robitaille  Screenwriter, Canadian Screen Training Centre

4:30 p.m.

Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Screen Training Centre

Max Berdowski

I think it's a necessity. The point I was making is that it's not just because it's a nice thing to do; it's because it's good business to do. It's the fastest-growing sector of the economy, or it has been up to now.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Thank you very much.

Final question, Mrs. Glover, please.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Thank you so much, all of you, for being here today.

I can assure you that as the mother of an actor, we on this side of the room believe it's very important to support our artists. Arts and culture is very important to us. Mr. Berdowski, I think you said it very well when you said it's important to our economy.

I want you to be selfless for just a moment and I want you to answer very quick questions. When we look at the whole arts and culture realm here in Canada, I think you would all agree it's important that more money be put toward arts and culture as a whole. Agreed, Mr. Lambert?

4:30 p.m.

Chair, John Lambert and Associates Inc.

John Lambert

It depends how it's invested.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

It's a simple yes or no. Do you agree, yes, you want more money, or no, you want less money?

4:30 p.m.

Chair, John Lambert and Associates Inc.

John Lambert

I think it needs to be well invested.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Very good.

Ms. Jackson.

4:30 p.m.

Executive Director, Canadian Independent Film and Video Fund

Robin Jackson

It should go to the artists.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Absolutely, I agree.

Mr. Berdowski.

4:35 p.m.

Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Screen Training Centre

Max Berdowski

I don't think you can say more is better; I think it has to be targeted and focused.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

I agree.

Mr. Robitaille.

4:35 p.m.

Screenwriter, Canadian Screen Training Centre

Marc Robitaille

Focusing on development.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Absolutely.

Now I want to point out that it's very difficult to be in government making difficult decisions, and that is why we did a strategic review. A 17% increase is what we're looking at for the Canada Council for the Arts. Is that not something that you would agree is a good thing?

Good or not good, Mr. Lambert?

4:35 p.m.

Chair, John Lambert and Associates Inc.

John Lambert

If it's well invested.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

It's 17% higher. It's well invested.

4:35 p.m.

Chair, John Lambert and Associates Inc.

John Lambert

No, if it is well invested.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Ms. Jackson, is higher better?

4:35 p.m.

Executive Director, Canadian Independent Film and Video Fund

Robin Jackson

It doesn't help our producers. It doesn't help our--

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Being selfless, being selfless.

4:35 p.m.

Executive Director, Canadian Independent Film and Video Fund

Robin Jackson

I'm being selfless. It doesn't help our producers.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Mr. Berdowski.

4:35 p.m.

Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Screen Training Centre

Max Berdowski

I just go back to what you said a minute ago about evaluations. Reviews were done in each area, and I just point out that in the case of our particular area, the review that was done does not call for the termination of the program.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Mr. Robitaille, 17% more to the Canada Council for the Arts--do you think that's a good thing?

4:35 p.m.

Screenwriter, Canadian Screen Training Centre

Marc Robitaille

I wish we had the same developing capacities now that I had when I was developing my trade.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

I'm just going to go back to past years.

Mr. Berdowski, I know you focused a little bit on what happened over the last few years. In the last ten years the film and video industry and its training programs in the sector have undergone significant changes. As I was doing some of the research, I couldn't help but find that we have a significant increase in a number of institutions providing training in the same area. Would you agree with the statement that over the last ten years there's been a significant increase?