Before I take the next points of order, and if we're going to carry this on until 4:30, there will be no more questioning of our panel. In all fairness to the panel, to our witnesses, we've brought them here to hear what they have to say, and we will respect the distances they have come. If we want to keep on with the points of order, I'll stay on that until 4:30 and then we'll recess.
Mr. Bruinooge, Ms. Dhalla, Ms. Glover, and then Mr. Del Mastro.