Thank you.
Thank you to both witnesses.
I've got to tell you that I listened intently to your presentations, and I thought it was the most interesting testimony I've heard on this since we had Jacob Glick here from Google. I think it's really important that we put this into the proper context. This is all about looking toward the future. It's not about where we are right now.
We really have to as a committee, I think, and certainly as a government, look to where things are going, not where things are. And where things are is in flux. Old models are looking for walls to be put up. They're looking for old systems to come to bear to maintain them. Frankly, new models are reaching well beyond Canada's borders, and that is really what's driving this enormous....
You talked about the long tail, which is something that Jacob Glick talks about. I've read the book on it, and I think there's no question that models need to be redesigned to look at where things are going. I think that ultimately if this committee is going to put something forward that will really benefit artists, really benefit Canada's cultural scene, and allow us to build more strength, then we're going to look to the kinds of suggestions that you're making here today.
Mr. Jenkins, you talked a little bit about the under-25 crowd. I don't know if you're finding this; with conventional formats, over-the-air television is still very strong, but the way that people are actually consuming over-the-air television is changing. People still read what reporters write in newspapers, but the way that they're reading it is changing.
Are you seeing any evidence that it's actually spreading beyond? It started with the under-25s, but I'm getting a little closer to 40 than I care for, and what I'm starting to find is that I'm using all these models now. They started with it, but it's actually spreading the other way. It's not top down, it's actually bottom up. The kids are using....
Yes, I'm under 40, Mr. Chair, thanks.
So I'm actually seeing evidence that people older are actually picking up on all this new stuff, and what we may see, quite differently from what we used to see, is this stuff spreading upward as it becomes easier to use and more accessible.