It would be really warm today.
Sorry for that, but we again welcome our witnesses and apologize. We're going to have to alter the length of your statements and answers somewhat, but we'll split it between the two. We'll cut this session by seven minutes or so.
From the Canadian Association of Research Libraries we have Ernie Ingles, and from Magazines Canada we have Mark Jamison and Jocelyn Poirier, director.
Mr. Ingles first, please.