That's included in the overall amount.
So, certainty over five years.... Look, they have certainty over three years, and this is.... Actually, I agree with you, and this is something the opposition has raised before, as has the CBC and as has the public: that certainty in funding is an important thing, which is part of the problem of the $60 million recurring programming fund. Every single year with the Liberal and Conservative governments there was always a doubt as to whether or not the $60 million would get renewed.
The truth is, and you can speak to members of the cabinet of the former Liberal government, that there was always a debate about the $60 million and whether or not.... There was a bit of a carrot and stick game with the CBC about how they were managing things, and that shouldn't be part of it. We should take the politics out of it and we should just make sure that they have a base funding, lump in the $60 million, and have the 10% reduction phased in over three years. It's a 2.4% reduction in year one and the 10% will be absorbed over three years.