The outcomes are very transparent. We publish a list. If you go to the Department of Canadian Heritage, it's down to a dime—everything that every organizations gets.
The reporting the Canada Council for the Arts does is exhaustive. The Auditor General looked at the Canada Council and came back saying that if every Government of Canada organization were run as efficiently as the Canada Council, she wouldn't have a job. It was Sheila Fraser who said that.
So I think it's done quite well.
One thing that I suppose has frustrated me a little bit, and this wasn't his point, is that very often with cultural funding there's an expectation that because you received $5,000 for your Canada Day celebration, or for your Festival du Bois in my riding, for example—they get $5,000 a year for some staging, equipment, some fencing, some lights and all that, and sheet cake for the kids and whatever, to add a little something to it. Because they received it one year, there is an expectation that they should get it in perpetuity.
The problem with that, of course, is that there are all kinds of very entrepreneurial cultural people out there who wish to have access to funding for the first time and often can't get it because we have funding organizations, sometimes like the Canada Council, who are afraid to upset incumbents who are currently getting money. I think there needs to be a little more accountability and flexibility and openness.