You're right with those numbers if you only look at those particular numbers on that night, if you don't take into account what we do on the web and the podcast and the rest. Frankly, that's the key. CBC News Network, sir, if you look at those numbers and you compare them to CTV news networks or anybody else, we're so much more relevant, sometimes it's three, four, and five to one.
On October 25th, 2011. See this statement in context.