Yes, and that's where I got the number as well, so we'll go with that.
Established artist—the word “established” speaks for itself. Again, at what point do you cut the umbilical cord? At what point do you have artists just go on and get along with their careers without government support at some level?
Yes, I can support FACTOR and other initiatives helping start-ups in the industry, but at some point you have to get on with it.