Okay.
I'm getting near the end of my time, so I'd like to move to the digital arts component.
You were talking about special effects and how that's emerging in British Columbia as a very important part of the industry. I'm wondering how separate those industries are now. I have EA games in my riding, and they say that personnel sometimes move back and forth between the gaming industry and the film industry. Is it artificial to divide these two industries? Are they one big industry? How would you characterize these two groupings?