The first comment I would make is that the CRTC has recognized this as a challenge, and people would drop the news, hence the reason that English news services had 9(1)(h) status in the last CRTC hearings. There is a recognition that news, not only in ethnic languages, is struggling in English Canada as well, based on the fact that you can get news anywhere. There is just a plethora of opportunities where you can get your news.
As far as the Italian goes, again, I don't want to get into selecting quotes and so forth from individual transcripts and so forth, because it would be very easy to go through the entire conversation that I had with Mr. Cash, your colleague, about this exact challenge—