I don't know that it's the skills. I think it's really the lack of training, the lack of succession training here in order to put people in those positions. From what I know, there are women who are leading smaller museums, mid-sized museums, and other artistic institutions across the country, but not at the very highest levels. I think that, because there simply aren't people being trained in any sort of succession training to take those jobs, the headhunters generally look outside the country. They look to the U.S., and they look to the U.K.
I know you spoke to Heidi Reitmaier of MOCA recently. She is Canadian. She has come back to Canada to take the job as director of MOCA, but she trained elsewhere for that position. She was in the U.S., and she was in the U.K.
I think in order to get that experience, from what I know, people do have to leave Canada, get that experience, and then hopefully they can come back for a job, but perhaps there is a way to have that leadership training here.
I don't think it's wrong to hire people from outside of Canada. I don't think it's wrong to hire Canadians who have trained in other places. I think it can definitely be an advantage to have people who have travelled, lived abroad, and trained in other places. They can bring that knowledge and those connections back here to Canada, but I do think that there is a lack of leadership in order to put people in those positions here, from what I know.