I am very much aware of the online article that the member references. I'm aware of the tape recording that was, I understand, made in 2012. I wasn't at the meeting in question. I am not aware of the context in which the comments were made. I can, however, assure the members of the committee that in the 15 years that I have been in the museum corporation, in my experience or to my knowledge, I am unaware of any minister of the crown interfering in the content of the museum. I've worked with a wide variety of ministers, from Sheila Copps, to Shelly Glover, to James Moore, and to the current minister, Mélanie Joly, and I can assure the members of the committee that on no occasion has there been any intervention by any minister in the content of the museum.