They should be an example, not the exception, because they're getting over a billion dollars of taxpayers' money every year. All we want to ensure is that the CBC does it right. I think, from my perspective, it's your job to ensure that the CBC follows the rules and is the crown jewel of how it should be done, and not go to the lowest denominator with, “Yes, that's okay; it's like everyone else.” They should be held—
On December 4th, 2018. See this statement in context.