Evidence of meeting #18 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was newspapers.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Excuse me. We have a motion on the floor from Mr. Nantel that suggests that the chair's—
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
No, Mr. Van Loan did not say that the chair's ruling be sustained. I—
Go ahead, Mr. Samson.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
We have to deal with the challenge. We need to vote on the statement under Mr. Van Loan's challenge. We're going to vote on the motion that suggests that the chair's ruling be sustained.
I'm going to call the question. There's no debate on this because the chair is suggesting we do not accept Mr. Van Loan's challenge, and in fact that the chair's ruling be sustained.
I will call the question. There is no debate on this.
Conservative
Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON
Just to be clear, since this was a challenge of the chair, a “yes” vote sustains the ruling of the chair and a “no” vote overturns the ruling of the chair. Thank you very much.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Yes, indeed.
We will now be voting on that motion that the chair's ruling be sustained.
All those in favour? Opposed?
(Ruling of the chair sustained [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
The chair's ruling is sustained.
Now we will go back to the motion that in the event of the adoption of Bill C-210, this committee will study the bill in this committee on Thursday.
Conservative
Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON
I have a point of order, Madam Chair.
I wanted some clarification on what happened to Monsieur Nantel's motion or suggestion. It seems to have evaporated. Are we doing Monsieur Nantel's motion here, or are we doing the previous motion?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
The motion is on the floor, and Mr. Van Loan has challenged it. The chair's ruling is sustained. We will have to deal with the motion that was originally on the floor that Mr. Van Loan challenged.
Liberal
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
The motion is “That in the event of the adoption on Thursday of Bill C-210, that this will be dealt with by this committee on Thursday and be reported to the House on Friday”.
Conservative
Conservative
Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON
Madam Chair, with the greatest of respect, you cannot limit my right to speak to this motion.
This is a matter of a review of Canada's national anthem. I appreciate the difficulty of Mr. Bélanger's circumstances, but with the greatest of respect, this is not Mr. Bélanger's national anthem. It is a national anthem that is sung every day by millions of Canadians.
We know from the efforts of my involvement in our previous government that when suggestions were made to change the wording of this national anthem, the response from the public was strong. People, thousands of Canadians, had views. Hundreds of my constituents had views, and views that were different from those of our government. These were views that this national anthem mattered a great deal to them, and they did not support the proposal that came from our government to change the wording.
What we learned from that experience is that trying to manage a situation like this in a top-down, non-democratic fashion is a dangerous thing to do. It lacks legitimacy. For a change like this to one of Canada's major national symbols, for a change like this to our national anthem, it is important there at least be the most basic.... I'm not asking for a lot. I'm asking for the most basic of—
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Mr. Van Loan, you have asked for this. You are repeating what you have already said—
Liberal
Conservative
Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON
I would like to discuss now the witnesses who would like to appear here.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
That is a point of order, because the business of the day has to be carried on by the other committee.
Conservative
Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON
Well, I have not finished, and I have the floor, with respect, Madam Chair.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Mr. Van Loan, do I take it that you are actually filibustering this meeting?
Conservative
Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON
I'm not filibustering. I'm attempting to explain why I think it's important.
