Evidence of meeting #19 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clerk.

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Chris Champion  Editor, The Dorchester Review
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jean-François Lafleur

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

[Inaudible—Editor] that notwithstanding that the notice was not [Inaudible—Editor] to one of the members—

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

Seamus O'Regan Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

The member is repeating himself. Can we move on to the first clause?

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Before, we were told that one of the members had received notice. Now we know that one of the members had not received notice—

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

Seamus O'Regan Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

As we've heard before—

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

We have a clear violation of the rules.

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

Seamus O'Regan Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

Can we move on to the first clause?

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

The schedule to the national anthem was voted on by this committee....

I will go to clause 1 which says:

The schedule to the National Anthem Act is replaced by the schedule set out in the schedule to this Act.

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Madam Chair, just on my point, which has nothing to do with the one you were talking about, Madam Chair—

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Are there any amendments?

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

—I have never seen a committee.... I've been on many committees over the years. I am vice-chair of this committee, and your ruling in regard to what I was talking about in having 20 minutes of questions left for the witness who came....

Madam Chair, when a time frame is set out for an hour of questions in a committee like that, I have never seen it cut off at two rounds.

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

Dan Vandal Liberal Saint Boniface—Saint Vital, MB

We weren't asking questions.

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Most of them go to three and four, if there are no other questions. I just want it on the record to make sure we know that we still had more questions. Obviously, we didn't even get an answer to the one that was asked—

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Mr. Maguire—

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

—so I just think it needs to be on the floor here.

We're dealing with something before this committee right now that isn't legislatively allowed under parliamentary rules, and that should be clear, and I—

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

The committee makes decisions—

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

With all the best wishes of my colleagues across the way—

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Ms. Dabrusin—

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

I would like to actually look at schedule 1, because I'm quite interested in it. I believe that is where we were—

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

They have not been referenced, Madam Chair.

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

—and it is important. Also, as a woman—

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

The member for Nunavut did not get it, and it's come up since—

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

—I would appreciate not being spoken over again.

9:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Order.

Mr. Maguire—

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

It's come up since, and that has changed since we made our ruling the other day.

9:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Order.

Mr. Maguire, you've put forward a question to the chair, and I am responding once again, as I am going to be responding for the third time.

We went into the second round. In the first round, no Liberal wanted to ask a question. The NDP did not wish to ask a question. We went into the second round, which is normally a five-minute round. I allowed that second round to be a seven-minute round. The first order was the Conservatives. You got seven minutes and thirty seconds.

When we moved to the next Liberal, that Liberal used his time to place a motion on the floor. We dealt with the motion. The motion was duly voted on. The New Democratic Party member, who should have been the next after the Liberal, said that he did not have a question.

Therefore, we are now moving to the orders of the day, which is a motion that was duly passed by the majority of this committee to move to clause-by-clause consideration. Now I will do so.