Let's just pick up on the CBC digital advertising, because it's only $25 million. We were here when the president of CBC indicated that they made $25 million out of digital advertising. It's not a lot of money that they've made to date.
Now, what they have done is stripped newspapers of their talent, I would say. Many newspaper columnists—Robyn Urback, Jason Warick, David Hutton—have gone over to CBC digital. I would say that's where they're getting their input. Torstar and others were here. Right now in terms of the digital input, they're ahead of the newspapers, but advertising-wise, $25 million doesn't seem like a lot of money to me.