No, I haven't, but I would like to speak to the last thing that my friend discussed.
We applaud the efforts the government is making. The idea of a name-blind application process, so people can at least get in the door, is a good start. The fundamental problem, of course, is that at some point people's involvement is going to be very clear, who they are and where they are from. You can't take away all the opportunities for people to exercise discretion. We are not machines. We are people who are going to have to make judgments. At some point, the information we receive is going to influence our decisions. The question we have to grapple with is, how do we make sure that systemic racism or religious discrimination doesn't influence that decision, or at least that it doesn't influence it to the point where we are not happy with the outcome?
The first part is that we have to recognize that we can't just run away from the issue. We can't have a magical solution. We have to do very hard work, and that is, first, acknowledging that we have biases, all of us. That's it. If you're in the room and you're serious about it, you just say, look, we're human beings, all of us. When we look at information, we are going to interpret things in a particular way. Now, that acknowledgement doesn't let us off the hook, but at least it starts a discussion where we can then say, “Okay, fine, we have these particular biases”, and we can look at the data. There is lots of data available. What can we do so that, when we are making that decision—