I will speak to that as well.
The Law Society of Upper Canada recently convocated. They agreed to a bunch of recommendations about the challenges faced by racialized licensees. That project started in 2013. I was one of the people who assisted the law society in getting data.
It's not just people who are marginalized in their communities financially and educationally; it's lawyers. I had black lawyers who said to me that there was no way they were going to participate in this. What we had to do was ask people like me to go in to do the hard work, to identify specifically what the purpose was and how the data would be used.
Part of it involved the individuals who were there and who understood what was going on lending their credibility to the people who were involved to assure that things would be anonymous, because they were terrified. You can imagine that it's such a small community it would be very easy to identify individuals.
Part of it is the involvement with the community. You have to involve them at every stage, I believe.