I don't think we have any more time left. We've gone over time.
Again I want to thank Ayesha and Avvy. You were excellent witnesses.
We're going into the next hour. We will have one minute of transition time for people to leave and other people to come in for the second hour.
Ms. Konanur and Mr. Richard, good afternoon and welcome. Thank you for being here.
Mr. Richard represents the Canadian Association of Black Lawyers. Ms. Konanur represents the South Asian Legal Clinic of Ontario. You have a maximum of 10 minutes each for your presentation, and then we'll go to a question and answer session.
I shall begin with Mr. Richard, for 10 minutes, please.