I'm going to reiterate the examples. I think it was testimony from a Ph.D. who was wearing a hijab, and she is very eloquent. She is very well versed on the topic of race and the kind of issues she'd face, because that's her scholarship. She was saying that after she gets her Ph.D. she's not sure she's going to have a job, because of her experience and because of her husband's experience. He has to look for a job abroad, because nobody will give him a position—I think he also has a Ph.D.—that is not an entry position.
A good proportion of the people I know are well educated. They have either graduate or above graduate education, but our pay grade is low, because we still have to struggle and find entry-level jobs.
The issue is about knowledge. It's an issue of which body carries that knowledge, and I think the knowledge of racialized minorities is always questioned.