Evidence of meeting #24 for Canadian Heritage in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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3:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Scott Simms
I'm sorry, Ms. Atwin; wait one moment, please. Mr. Rayes has a point of order.
3:25 p.m.
Conservative
Alain Rayes Conservative Richmond—Arthabaska, QC
I've lost track of which amendment we are on exactly. You said that, if the amendment was adopted, others could not be moved. I'm unclear as to how this amendment relates to the others, so I'd like to know before we proceed.
Which amendment are we discussing right now?
3:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Scott Simms
Okay, let me repeat that.
If PV-7 is adopted—if it is accepted by the committee as an amendment—it means that G-2, NDP-7 and BQ-5 cannot be moved. Again, it's the line conflict.
We're back to you, Ms. Atwin.
3:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Scott Simms
Well, as I pointed out before, PV-7 is moved, so it carries on.
We can have a discussion about it, if you wish.
Ms. Dabrusin, go ahead.
3:25 p.m.
Liberal
Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON
I want to be clear, I guess. Is it the case that since it's moved, if it fails, we cannot move on to the next one, is it that if it fails, we just move on?
April 16th, 2021 / 3:25 p.m.
Liberal
3:25 p.m.
Liberal
3:25 p.m.
Bloc
Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC
I have a bit of a technical question, Mr. Chair.
Since the member is likely having technical difficulties and is not here to move the amendment, I'm wondering whether it's in order.
3:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Scott Simms
Yes, it is, because several years ago, as I pointed out, the Standing Orders allowed recognized parties and independents to be involved in the committee process. They can put an amendment forward for consideration and they can discuss it, as they've been doing all day today; what they cannot do is vote.
However, the other thing they can do is that once their motion is deemed.... Once we commence the hearings, their motions are deemed moved, because of the situation they are in. Those are the Standing Orders and what they dictate. Again, this is unique to the Green Party or any independents who put forward any amendments, so we are now compelled to have a discussion, if you wish to have a discussion, and we're also compelled to vote on this amendment because it's been deemed moved.
I hope that makes it clear.
3:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Scott Simms
Thank you.
Seeing no further discussion, I will move to a vote on PV-7. Shall PV-7 carry?
3:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Scott Simms
We will have a recorded vote.
(Amendment negatived: nays 11; yeas 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We now go to G-2, and before we do, let us note that if G-2 is adopted, NDP-7 and BQ-5 cannot be moved due to line conflicts.
We now go to Mr. Housefather.
3:30 p.m.
Liberal
Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I think that this is an amendment that is common in terms of a theme that all parties want to recognize, which is that “each broadcasting undertaking shall make maximum use of Canadian creative and other resources in the creation and presentation of programming”.
What is missing in amendment G-2 that is in the others is the idea of “in no case less than predominant use”.
I would welcome, since I can't move that amendment to my own motion, if somebody else would move something here to introduce the concept of the words “in no case less than predominant” that I see in the NDP motion and the Bloc motion. I'm totally happy to accept that as an amendment and to support it.
Basically, then, it has the exclusion unless the nature of the service provided by the undertaking renders such use impracticable, in which case the undertaking shall make use of those resources to the extent that it can and should.
Again, I appreciate that I think we all agree overall on this, and if somebody would amend this amendment, that would be great.
Thank you.
3:30 p.m.
Liberal
Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC
Yes, sorry. I move the amendment as it is drafted, and I'm looking for somebody to subamend it.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
3:30 p.m.
NDP
3:30 p.m.
NDP
3:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Scott Simms
As was described earlier by Mr. Housefather, and now Ms. McPherson, is everyone clear on the subamendment? Okay.
Now it's in discussion. I have Ms. McPherson up, but did you...?
