Mr. Rayes, just for a point of clarification, I understand what you are saying. If the understanding from everybody was that they would both appear along with the charter statement, that is true, but the remedy you are seeking is one that I cannot provide. It would mean that you're compelling the minister to be here, and I cannot do that. We as a committee cannot do it.
I appreciate that as a point of debate, but right now we're still on the motion.
Ms. McPherson.