I agree with you. These are the two key programs. Again, there are several interventions that are being made by the federal government in the culture and arts sector. But for festivals and events, it's essentially through these two programs, the Canada arts presentation fund and the building communities through arts and heritage program. It's a centralized environment. There are 1,050 festivals and events supported by these two programs. So if these programs aren't well resourced, the entire ecosystem of festivals and events suffers.
I should also point out that in 2016, when this government took office, it doubled the budget of the CBC and the Canada Council for the Arts. However, it did not increase the program budget of the Department of Canadian Heritage as substantially and in the same proportion. In my opinion, that's where the problem lies.