Evidence of meeting #101 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-18.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Imran Ahmed  Chief Executive Officer, Center for Countering Digital Hate
Jean-Hugues Roy  Professor, École des médias, Université du Québec à Montréal, As an Individual
Jason Kint  Chief Executive Officer, Digital Content Next
Michael Geist  Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-Commerce Law, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa, As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Geneviève Desjardins

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Mr. Chair—

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

We've discussed this.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Mr. Chair, are you saying that I can't continue talking?

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

No, I think the motion has been—

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

You've attempted twice to stop me from speaking.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Yes, I have.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Why are you doing that? Obviously, you want the vote called.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

No, it's a dilatory motion, Mr. Coteau.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

I have the floor. How much time have we sat here as members and listened to the member who is moving this motion speak for, in some cases, 50 minutes without being interrupted, and here I am.... I don't speak a lot at this committee—you know that—and here I am being told by the chair, twice now, to stop talking by the chair interrupting me. I don't think that's a fair process.

If you want to talk about fairness, then we should allow members to speak and actually—

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Go ahead on a point of order, Ms. Gladu.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

My understanding is that, when there is a motion, you can't call the vote until everybody who has their hand up gets a chance to speak. Could you just clarify?

Mr. Coteau has every right to continue.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Thank you. I appreciate that. I always say that you bring a lot of clarity to this committee, and you know I have said that before. I'm not just saying it because it's to my advantage at this moment.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

I'm sorry, Mr. Coteau, but when we have a dilatory motion, it's not debatable. We move right away to the vote. That's why I cut you off twice. This is a dilatory motion. I've asked the clerk to call for the vote. I'm listening to the clerk. This is a dilatory motion. She has confirmed to me that it is.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Can I ask a question, Mr. Chair?

If it's one o'clock, can we adjourn?

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

I'll ask the clerk to clarify.

1 p.m.

The Clerk

A dilatory motion is to replace the subject at hand with another order of business.

The vote would not be on the motion itself. The vote is to resume debate on the motion, and that is a dilatory motion, which is not debatable and amendable.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Do we have to continue at this point?

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Being that it is a dilatory motion, Mr. Coteau, we can vote on it right now or when we come back on Thursday, when the first item would be to vote on this motion.

As chair, I call for the vote, and then we move on—

1 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

To move past the ascribed time for the committee, you need unanimous consent, which you do not have, so we're done.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

We have three extra minutes, Mr. Noormohamed.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Now we have extra minutes—great.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Well, no, we've been talking the whole time.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Oh, I see. Okay.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

But I would like to call for the vote—

1 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

We sit through countless hours of conversation.

We had a situation where Mr. Champoux put forward a motion. There was an opportunity for the committee to work collaboratively to continue with questions. Sadly, that was not given. We were not able to do that because some folks didn't feel that was appropriate.

We then agreed, as a group, through you, Mr. Chair, that each party remaining would get their three minutes.