Absolutely.
I think there are people who aren't just exploring them; there are people who are actually doing them, and there are several examples.
There was a great piece in the Globe and Mail a couple of days ago about journalists going about it in their own different ways. They talked about CHEK News on Vancouver Island, which is a co-op owned by the people who work there. There's The Narwhal and others that have RJO status, so they are registered charities in accordance with changes to the Income Tax Act and things like that, which the government has implemented over the last little while. They can issue tax receipts, and I think that is huge.
I am also the chair of something called the Investigative Journalism Foundation, which is a new outlet. We are a not-for-profit newsroom, and we are growing. We are hiring more and more people all the time, because we are doing public service work and focusing on data. We're looking into how we can use SSHRC grants and different opportunities that have historically not been taken up to build out datasets and things like that.
I think what I would say broadly is that for this forum, everybody is in a bit of a different position. If we are talking about what the future looks like, I think we have to account for that, because I don't think there is going to be a one-size-fits-all solution to these problems.
Look at, for example, what La Presse is doing. You heard about that a couple of weeks ago in the last round of testimony. They are making $13 million. I believe that was their bottom line, in the black. This can happen. I think what we need to figure out is what the common denominators are and how we incentivize different kinds of—