The time is up, Anna. Thank you.
We have 20 minutes to go before 5:30. I'm making a suggestion that we go with five minutes for the Conservatives, five minutes for the Liberals, and two and a half and two and a half minutes. That's 20 minutes, and we can end this meeting.
I don't know if bells will start before that, but let's go with that right now.
For the Conservatives, I have Rachael Thomas.