I was just about to say something, Mr. Chair, before the member spoke to an important issue. I caught the end of it. I believe it was about the interpreters and making sure that we maintain a low volume level. I agree with that, and I thank the member for that.
The Leader of the Opposition had an extraordinary opportunity to rise to the occasion. I'm bringing this up because I think we have an opportunity as a committee to really rise to the occasion and to talk about racism in a way that is productive.
The Leader of the Opposition went to this camp, and he found himself in a very sticky situation. He found himself in a situation where there were white nationalist symbols. It was a very simple response the leader had to do: just denounce that specific group. He has decided not to do that. He has been given—