Evidence of meeting #121 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Geneviève Desjardins
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Blair McMurren  Director General, Strategic Policy and International Affairs, Department of Canadian Heritage
Thomas Owen Ripley  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage
Isabelle Mondou  Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage
Joëlle Montminy  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Pascale St-Onge Liberal Brome—Missisquoi, QC

My colleague is constantly attacking CBC/Radio‑Canada in order to obtain a licence to completely destroy the public broadcaster.

The reality is that the public broadcaster is facing financial pressures like all other media, which depend, among other things, on advertising revenue. What's more, for years my colleague has opposed our idea of regulating the digital giants so that they can contribute to the success of our audiovisual universe.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Thank you.

You've made it really clear that you have no respect for this committee or the process that is being undertaken. The question was simple—

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Pascale St-Onge Liberal Brome—Missisquoi, QC

The person who asked me last time to speak in English said that to me. So much for respect.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

I would just ask that my time be paused while she wastes it.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

It's paused. You're at 3:07.

Go ahead, Ms. Thomas.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Thank you.

Minister, this year, just in the last few months, you promised the CBC an extra $1.4 million, but there were no conditions attached to this.

Why?

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Pascale St-Onge Liberal Brome—Missisquoi, QC

These amounts respect the payroll and the collective agreements planned and negotiated between the public broadcaster and its employees.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

There were no conditions attached. Therefore, the head of the CBC was able to scrap hundreds of jobs while giving 15 million dollars' worth of bonuses to top executives.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Pascale St-Onge Liberal Brome—Missisquoi, QC

That's false.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

This minister sitting right here failed to hold the head of the CBC accountable.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Pascale St-Onge Liberal Brome—Missisquoi, QC

That's false.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

That's shameful.

I transfer my time to Mr. Philip Lawrence.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Pascale St-Onge Liberal Brome—Missisquoi, QC

I would like to answer the member's question. After all, I was invited here to answer questions.

My colleague's assertions that there are no conditions attached to this are completely false.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

We're moving on, Minister.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Pascale St-Onge Liberal Brome—Missisquoi, QC

The services that CBC/Radio‑Canada must provide to Canadians are set out in the act.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Mr. Lawrence, go ahead.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Pascale St-Onge Liberal Brome—Missisquoi, QC

It's very rude not to let me answer the question.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Minister, we're moving on.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Mr. Lawrence, we have two minutes and 13 seconds left.

Go ahead, Mr. Noormohamed.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Mr. Chair, I believe it is the duty of the chair—

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Yes, I did.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

You did not let me finish my point of order, Mr. Chair.

If you'd like to do this, I'm happy to do it, but I'd like to have the conversation I'm entitled to have as a member.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Fire away.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Thank you.

Mr. Chair, the comment or question was addressed to the minister. The minister should be afforded the time, however brief, to respond, which she was not given.