Canadian Heritage Committee on Nov. 14th, 2024

[Niki Ashton, NDP, Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB]

I know this committee has made an issue of trying to assume where members are coming from.

I used my time to put forward a motion I submitted almost two months ago, and it's the week of Remembrance Day. If people want to debate the truthfulness of the Deschênes commission, I find that deeply problematic, and they're impugning my motives during the week of Remembrance Day, on a motion I submitted on something as serious as protecting Nazis.

I hope we can move to a vote as soon as possible.

[Brenda Shanahan, Liberal, Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC]

Madam Chair—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Mrs. Shanahan, your hand is up.

[Brenda Shanahan, Liberal, Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC]

Yes. Thank you very much.

I too am perplexed as to why, in a special meeting called to address the CBC and the minister, this has come up at this point. Many of us are not regular members of this committee.

I am not comfortable proceeding further on this, so I move now to adjourn.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

There's a motion to adjourn.

We have only five more minutes left on the clock, so shall I call a vote to adjourn?

[Niki Ashton, NDP, Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB]

Madam Chair—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Go ahead.

[Niki Ashton, NDP, Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB]

I find it shameful that we're adjourning such an important debate, one about releasing the names and—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Ms. Ashton, I'm sorry. I'm calling for a vote. Thank you.

Clerk, please go ahead.

[The Clerk of the Committee, Ms. Danielle Widmer]

The vote is this: Shall the debate be adjourned?

[Brenda Shanahan, Liberal, Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC]

I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Who is calling for a point of order? I can't see.

[Brenda Shanahan, Liberal, Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC]

It's Brenda.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We're in the middle of a vote, Mrs. Shanahan, but go ahead.

[Brenda Shanahan, Liberal, Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC]

Is the point of order to adjourn the meeting or is it to adjourn debate?

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We are voting on the motion to adjourn. We can't debate it, but we can vote on it.

Go ahead, please, Clerk....

I'm sorry. Madam Shanahan, are you asking to adjourn the debate on the motion? I'm not clear on what you're adjourning.

[Brenda Shanahan, Liberal, Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC]

Yes, it's to adjourn debate.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

All right.

Go ahead, Clerk.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

We started 10 minutes late. We're now 10 minutes after 12 p.m. I think the minister was very clear that she had an hour to give us because of certain circumstances with regard to maternity leave.

I think we should decide to adjourn the meeting now.

I want to thank the minister—

[Eric Duncan, Conservative, Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON]

I have a point of order.

Maybe we can keep our rounds, or at least the last two, so Conservatives and Liberals have their own—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We only have resources until noon, and we're now 10 minutes after noon.

[Eric Duncan, Conservative, Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON]

I'll take two and a half minutes, or something along those lines. It's a recess week, and—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I'm sorry. We have five minutes for you and five minutes for Ms. Lalonde if we go on. Basically, that will get us to 20 minutes after 12. We need interpretation and other resources to continue.

[Eric Duncan, Conservative, Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON]

I have a point of order.

It's a constituency week. There are no other committees going on. There are resources. We're all here, and—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

That has nothing to do with it, Mr. Duncan. We need extra—

[Eric Duncan, Conservative, Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON]

I'm just asking for two and a half minutes each, at least.