Yes, and I'll take the example of The National, because that's often cited as where we have declining television viewership. In fact, maybe 10 years ago, there were 1.2 million people tuning in on television, and today there are about 1.3 million people consuming The National, but only half of them consume it on television. There's still a solid number of people who watch linear TV, and the remainder—in fact, an increasing number—are watching on YouTube, on CBC Gem or on connected TVs.
Just to be very clear, so people understand what a connected TV is, it is not a linear television box. It is a connection to the Internet. That's why you can get Netflix, YouTube and Crave, as well as CBC Gem, the CBC News Network and all the other wonderful Canadian channels on connected TV. People need to understand that Canadians have moved online. That does not mean they have moved off CBC.