I take that point.
The CBC is more than just a television broadcaster. It's more than just a deliverer of news. It does a lot more than that. For example, there's children's programming, election coverage in our country, the Olympics and radio. In the morning, when I wake up, I always open up the CBC Listen app. I listen to the morning news, but I also listen to the world news. That's how I receive my news. I don't think I've turned on the CBC channel for a long time. It's usually directly through YouTube, the website or the Gem app.
On the statistics you gave, I think Ms. Tait acknowledged that the viewership on television was dropping, but when you start to look at the online presence.... For example, on election night, there were nine million impression rates on the website. We're seeing a huge jump in online listening through radio, YouTube and the Gem app.
I think it would be fair to say that there may not be growth in television—across all broadcasters, we've seen a decline—but would you acknowledge that when it comes to its online presence, the numbers are actually increasing dramatically?