We have several layers of communication with these platforms as they enter the Canadian market. The first one obviously is.... This is not a copyright hearing, but just for your information, we talk to them about whether they are going to be licensed and how they're going to be licensed. Our members participate in the rate-setting process with SOCAN and CMRRA as they are licensed.
We also know that many of our Canadian-based companies then want to use the platforms, so we have a tech summit once a year. Google, TikTok and Amazon all come and meet with our members and talk about the tools that are available to businesses and creators—all the data that's being supplied. In fact, when I go to New York for New York song week on June 13, we're going to be meeting with these platforms there, to meet with the people who really understand publishing and songwriting to see how we can have producers who are not artists discovered on these platforms.
Those are the kinds of discussions we have, and I know my colleague at APEM has done the same type of work.