Yes. I don't want to get too specific in terms of the numbers. I can follow up with the committee to give some more specific numbers.
I would say that, again, it's not growing, and I think that in radio, especially over the last few years as their advertising numbers have been hit particularly hard, it's been going down.
Employment numbers, in aggregate, I would say have been going down in the broadcasting sector over that time. Again, it's that challenge that there is money that has to go out the door to independent producers, and there is advertising money that's not coming in, and the squeeze comes internally with the stations and the services themselves.