Evidence of meeting #27 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-11.
A recording is available from Parliament.
6:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
We will have to leave the room on time. It is now 18:30, which gives us one more minute.
Mr. Champoux, are you suggesting that this debate be now adjourned? I did not have clarity on that.
6:30 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Madam Chair, I have a point of order.
A motion of that nature cannot be moved during a point of order.
6:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Mr. Champoux, did you begin by saying this is a point of order or did you just begin by saying that we need to end the meeting, which I am about to say.
I am about to say that we need to end this meeting in accordance with the rules that allow for interpreters to have a 30-minute break before the next meeting, which begins at 7 p.m.
As a result of that, I am asking Mr. Champoux if he is now moving a motion to adjourn debate.
6:30 p.m.
Bloc
6:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I'm sorry, that is not a debatable or amendable motion. We must end this meeting right now, so I will actually—
6:30 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Madam Chair, you cannot accept a motion of this nature from the member.
6:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I'm sorry. There is an actual motion made by Mr. Champoux. We also have to leave the room. I don't know if you actually heard that.
6:30 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Madam Chair, would you just entertain me for one moment, please?
6:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
No, I'm speaking, Mrs. Thomas.
We have listened to you speak. Will you do me the courtesy of allowing me to finish my sentence?
What I am saying is that we must, regardless, leave this room so that the interpreters can have 30 minutes of recess, according to the parliamentary rules.
Now when I said that, Mr. Champoux asked that the debate be now adjourned. That is not debatable and it is not amendable, so as far as I am concerned, there is someone opposing that.
Are you opposing is motion, Mrs. Thomas, which is duly placed?
6:30 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Madam Chair, with all due respect, it's not. You cannot move a motion to adjourn the committee when it is on a point of order.
Madam Chair, if you wish to adjourn, you are welcome to do that, but Mr. Champoux cannot move that motion.
6:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Mrs. Thomas, allow me to finish speaking. You are uncourteous.
I said we have to leave. Mr. Champoux did not make his motion on a point of order. I spoke and I said we have to leave. Mr. Champoux then moved a motion to adjourn debate.
Please, if you are challenging the chair, please do so appropriately and don't try these tactics.
6:30 p.m.
Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Madam Chair, could you please help me understand? What would the best way be to address the matter I see at hand?
6:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I think on the matter that you see at hand, there have been suggestions made, in goodwill, by many members of this committee, that you ask Mr. Scott to discuss his statement once more and then clarify it.
6:35 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Ms. Thomas, you seem to have a lot of trouble when someone is speaking and cut them off. I am speaking. You asked me a question, and I am trying to answer it.
Now, are you suggesting—?
6:35 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
You asked me what you should do, and I am suggesting that you could ask Mr. Scott, whom you have quoted during this whole issue. You quoted him. It might be nice to ask him if he would clarify.
The minister is appearing before this committee, and the minister will obviously then clarify if you ask him that question. I don't understand the problem here.
There are two options open to you—and, by the way, I don't want to debate it.
This debate is now adjourned and we are leaving the meeting.
Thank you very much.
