Evidence of meeting #30 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Andrew Cash  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Independent Music Association
Jay Goldberg  Director, Ontario, Canadian Taxpayers Federation
Sam Norouzi  Vice President and General Manager, ICI Television
Alexie Labelle  Legislative Clerk
Andrea Kokonis  Chief Legal Officer and General Counsel, Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Madam Chair, you can dictatorially decide to move past me, but you have to hear from the rest of the people who are on the list to speak.

However, I would ask that you be respectful of the fact that I do hold the floor and that I have been respectful as to this motion and speaking to it on topic.

If we disagree on that, then I would ask that you consult with the clerk.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

A point of order—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Ms. Thomas, you don't have to ask that I do anything. I am the chair of this committee and I know the rules.

Mr. Champoux is absolutely right about the rule that allows me to end your speaking because you are continuing to repeat the same things. I have not done that yet. I have given you a lot of leeway to continue to repeat yourself, Ms. Thomas.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I have a point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes, Mr. Julian.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Thanks very much, Madam Chair.

I've seen a ton of repetition, and I would argue there's the issue of relevance as well. You do have the ability to enforce committees, and in this case, of course, during the Harper years it was systematic—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Madam Chair, that is not a point of order. This is debate.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

—that Harper chairs—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Debate.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

—would ensure—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Debate.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I'm being heckled by Ms. Thomas. Could you bring this to order, please?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Ms. Thomas—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Yes, Chair. This is debate.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Could you bring this to order, please?

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

This is debate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Mr. Julian is [Inaudible—Editor]—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Debate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Ms. Thomas—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Debate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

—would you like to be the chair—

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Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Debate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

—of this committee?

June 2nd, 2022 / 5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Yes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You can continue to speak over me and above me and over anyone else who continues to speak. This shows a lack of respect for your colleagues.

Now, Mr. Julian is speaking. It is a point of order, because he is speaking to the issue of your amendment. You were speaking, and he is suggesting that you are repeating yourself and that it is time to ask you to step down from your debate.