Canadian Heritage Committee on June 2nd, 2022

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I'm just checking the rules.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

Perhaps you should check with the clerk.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I am checking the rules at the moment on that issue.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

Would you care to suspend while you check with the clerk, please.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes, please. I'd like to suspend for lots of reasons other than checking with the clerk. I think it is time for everyone to have some kind of refreshment break or whatever break, because we have a hard stop for this committee to end, and then when we get to that stop, there will be no other room, no room and no one to carry on meetings.

I wanted you to know that. I'm suggesting that the committee ends at 6:45 hard stop. The room is closed and all of the staff leave.

Thank you very much. We will suspend for two minutes. Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We will resume the debate.

I would need to hear from Mr. Perkins what exactly his subamendment is before I can rule it in order. It has to deal with the amendment.

Thank you, Mr. Perkins.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I think the clerk has it typed out in front of her. She could—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Read it to us?

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

—either email it or read it.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Clerk, could you please read the subamendment?

[Alexie Labelle]

Yes. I can perhaps read the motion with Ms. Thomas's amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes, please.

[Alexie Labelle]

It reads, “That the deadline for amendments be three days prior to clause-by-clause”, and then the subamendment would be to add “and after the minister appears before committee”.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

That subamendment is in order, so we will entertain debate on the subamendment, please.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

I speak to my subamendment first, I believe.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I said yes. Obviously you have to speak to it.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

Thank you, Madam Chair.

The subamendment, to add clarity to the amendment, which appears to be what some of the members around this table were seeking, provides a little more rationale as to why the date for submitting amendments to the bill should be three days afterwards so that we can hear from additional witnesses and the minister, who unfortunately had to leave as a result of the unwillingness of the government members to adjourn this very debate that we're having.

I think it's important we hear from—

[Anthony Housefather, Liberal, Mount Royal, QC]

I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Excuse me, I do not think that was a subamendment that the clerk read. She did not read “and four other witnesses”.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

That's what I gave the clerk.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Well, the clerk said three days after the deadline that was in the original amendment and after the minister has appeared.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

I'm sorry, Madam Chair, I was aware—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Clerk, will you please read it?

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

Just a moment, I thought I had done that, but apparently it's not there, and that's okay. It says—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

That's why I ruled your subamendment admissible.