Evidence of meeting #41 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was players.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Justin Vaive  Procedural Clerk
Glen McCurdie  As an Individual
Scott Smith  President and Chief Operating Officer, Hockey Canada
Brian Cairo  Chief Financial Officer, Hockey Canada
Dan MacKenzie  President, Canadian Hockey League
Gilles Courteau  Commissioner, Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec
David Branch  Commissioner, Ontario Hockey League
Dave Andrews  Chair, Hockey Canada Foundation, Hockey Canada
Tom Renney  Chief Executive Officer (Retired), Hockey Canada
Ron Robison  Commissioner, Western Hockey League
Barry F. Lorenzetti  Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you very much, Karen.

Now I go to James Maloney for the Liberals.

You have five minutes, please.

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Lorenzetti, for being here today.

You are an insurance broker, right?

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

As an insurance broker, Hockey Canada or any other client would come to you with their insurance needs. They would explain what their needs are. You would evaluate them. Then you would point them in the direction of an insurance company who could provide an insurance policy that would provide those coverages. Is that fair?

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

You don't write policies. You have, I assume, a stable of insurance companies that you deal with.

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

AIG is one of them, obviously.

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Is AIG the CGL policy issuer for Hockey Canada, as well as the policy that we're talking about here?

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

Barry F. Lorenzetti

AIG is the primary insurance company for general liability. We have some excess carriers above the general liability policy, but they are the sole insurer with respect to sexual misconduct.

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Okay. Thank you.

In the ordinary course, what would happen is that a policy would be issued.... Well, let's talk about this case. A policy would be issued, in this case by AIG, and when a claim arises, the insured, in this case Hockey Canada, has an obligation or responsibility to report that claim to its insurer. That can be done through you. Is that accurate?

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Then you report it on to AIG, because AIG is actually the organization or the entity that handles the claim and addresses the claim, including such things as whether or not particular items are covered. Is that fair?

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

Barry F. Lorenzetti

That's very fair.

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Okay. Thank you.

When we're putting questions to you about whether something is or is not covered, it's not being fair to you, is it, sir? I don't know what your training or background is, but in my experience, you're not the one who usually answers those questions. It would be the insurance company, usually with the assistance of their lawyers.

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

Barry F. Lorenzetti

That is accurate.

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

All right. Thank you.

All of that leads me to say that I'm not sure why you're here, sir—

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Voices

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

—other than the fact that we can get an interesting education on the insurance claims process, perhaps.

In that vein, then, if a claim is made, the statement of claim.... In this case, for example, the contents or the wording of that claim would trigger a certain response from the insurance company on, for example, whether or not there is a duty to defend. Is that accurate?

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

Barry F. Lorenzetti

That's very accurate.

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

That's entirely different from whether or not there is a duty to indemnify. Is that accurate?

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

Barry F. Lorenzetti

That is also accurate.

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

The duty to indemnify is not something that's determined until a lawsuit or a claim has advanced through all the stages, possibly to its conclusion. Is that fair?

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Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, BFL Canada

Barry F. Lorenzetti

In the event that AIG in this case was presented with a claim, they have every right to reserve their rights, conduct an investigation, and at times...and this is not a question pointed in the direction of AIG but is typical in the industry, which you seem to know something about—