There's no doubt about that.
There's a lot of misinformation around. Google has done a deal with everybody who's eligible, and Facebook just about, although there are some weird exceptions.
In terms of the smaller players, in my view, Country Press Australia, which I think has about 180 very small publications—you're talking about a couple of journalists in many of them—got by far the best deal per journalist. Many other small players have deals, organizations you just haven't heard of because we have a lot of new digital natives in Australia, as well as the traditional press. Australian Community Media, of course, got deals with both players.
The smaller media companies have really benefited, and it's enabling them to thrive in a way that they just couldn't before. This is a myth that it's only helped the large players. That's just complete disinformation.