Peter, we're going to have to leave that one on the table, and you can ask it again.
I want to apologize to the committee for allowing both Peter and Ms. Larouche to go to five minutes, but this testimony is so fascinating that I get lost in listening to it and listening to what I consider sometimes to be absolute contradiction in the testimony.
Anyway, we'll move on, and I will go to Ms. Thomas for five minutes, please.