Minister, I'd just like to know this: Who did you trust in the department? Are you saying that you can't trust your department going forward?
My second question, if you'll be so kind to answer it.... Mr. Marouf claims that the CMAC—which is, in actual fact, Mr. Marouf and his wife and no one else, so it's not an organization, but just somebody and his wife—was approached by Canadian Heritage—