I am not, personally. I do believe there are some relationships between our members and Google. As I said, there are 700 members across the country, so it is difficult for me to nail it down. I do know that some have entered into those negotiations.
I think one point we're coming to is this idea that a link has value. I think the whole purpose of why we're here and what we're talking about with Bill C-18 is the fact that the link is creating more value for the global platforms than for the Canadian journalism organizations. That is the discrepancy we're trying to address here.
If we ask whether there is value in sending people to TVA Nouvelles, CTV News, Global or my radio station members or what have you, yes, there's value, but who is retaining the majority of that value? The majority of that value is being retained by the platforms.