I feel like in some ways this bill is the worst of both worlds. I think the minister has said he doesn't want to be in the middle between the news organizations and the platforms, but I think the truth is, if the government has policy objectives, it is in the middle. You can't escape being in the middle. This is trying to do it, like I said, in a way that is trying to force the platforms to pay a funder role and give them criteria and things they need to ensure happen. But that's not the correct role for a private sector entity. If you're trying to make policy, if you're trying to make quality—
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