I really feel that when you look at the funds for hockey and what the costs are, you see that there's the insurance fund, which when I was there was approximately $11, and there's a fee of $3 for individuals to play. That $3 hasn't increased, I don't think, over the last number of years. Insurance might have gone up.
However, the real costs and fees to kids start to be charged at the provincial, regional and minor hockey levels. The majority of the funds that Hockey Canada generates go back to helping participants with the programs and that. Hockey Canada was fortunate to build a lot of revenue from international events: 18% of international events—women's world championships, world juniors—goes back to grassroots programming. I'm not saying it's for fees, but it certainly helps all of the grassroots programming that's developed in the country.