It's a spectrum. To me, it goes back a little bit to Mr. Julian in previous hearings when he asked what we're doing around reporting of numbers and what we're doing around maltreatment, abuse and harassment.
There's a lot of work that we are doing. We're getting prepared to release a report in the next little bit that will share our first attempt to move forward and be better in this area. At the end of the day, a lot of it is around education.
We have a lot of work to do. I think we've been clear on that. We're not the experts; we are consulting with the experts. I think everyone here expects us to do that, and our members have been clear on that, so we come here from a position of.... Whether this is a power play or a penalty kill, running a world-class event or doing things through grassroots hockey.... We're not the best, but we feel we're good, and we can certainly get help on that, but at this stage that we're talking about, we need a lot of help.