Mr. Ripley, I'm sorry, but you can't really regulate one without the other. At the end of the day, it's bargaining, so there are two different entities that are trying to enter into a negotiation and hopefully reach an agreement with regard to compensation.
On the eligible news businesses, you just said that the Governor in Council would determine the criteria, and then the CRTC would be responsible for applying those criteria. If it's the Governor in Council—which, effectively, ultimately comes down to a cabinet decision—then it is actually Parliament that is determining who qualifies as an eligible news business.
At the end of the day, the digital news intermediary can only be held accountable for entering into negotiations with those who qualify. If an entity that doesn't qualify comes forward and says the DNI has refused to negotiate with it, then it's no big deal; they didn't make the cut. But if an entity comes forward that does make the cut, then there is in fact accountability and it would be up to the CRTC to enforce that. However, in order for the CRTC to enforce that, again, coming full circle, it was up to the Governor in Council to determine that set of criteria.
I feel like we're talking in circles here a little bit. How can you engage...? How can the DNIs be expected to engage in negotiations if there isn't a second party? I think the answer to that question is that of course there's a second party and that second party is the eligible news business.
What makes them eligible? You said that it's the Governor in Council that determines that through a set of criteria. Again, coming around another circle, with all due respect, I would say then that Parliament is being put in the place of having to make a decision with regard to what is and is not an eligible news source or a legitimate news source in the nation. In fact, the way the bill currently stands, it doesn't even have to be within the nation. It could be a foreign entity as well.
Anyway, I'm just curious how Parliament is.... Help me understand here. Am I not seeing this correctly? It seems like Parliament would need to be involved in terms of that definition of eligible news source.