Canadian Heritage Committee on Feb. 14th, 2022

[Michael Coteau, Liberal, Don Valley East, ON]

So the motion currently is the original.... I mean, what we're voting on is the amendment just to bring the minister here, with the original motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Not the original, Mr. Coteau—

[Michael Coteau, Liberal, Don Valley East, ON]

Well, it's the motion as amended, right?

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes. It's the motion as amended—to add that we ask the minister to appear.

[Michael Coteau, Liberal, Don Valley East, ON]

Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

That is what Ms. Barron is suggesting.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Chair, may I?

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes, Ms. Thomas.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

I'm sorry. If you could confer with the clerk, I don't think that's quite true. We're not voting on the motion as amended. We are only voting on the amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We are voting on the subamendment, which is going to amend the amended motion—or the motion as amended by Mr. Champoux's amendments.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

My understanding is that—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

It's no longer the original motion. It has been amended by Mr. Champoux, an amendment that everyone agreed with, so it's now an amended motion, and we are adding a subamendment to the amended motion to ask the minister to appear. That's exactly what it is, technically.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Madam Chair, I'm sorry. I just don't think you've clarified this. Perhaps you could ask the clerk to specify what we're voting on just so everyone knows precisely what it is.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes, Ms. Thomas.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Go ahead, Clerk.

[The Clerk]

Ms. Barron, just before I respond to Ms. Thomas, can I get where in the motion you would like that inserted, please?

[Lisa Marie Barron, NDP, Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC]

Yes, thank you. It would be at the end of the motion, specifying that the Minister of Heritage and his department be invited to testify as part of this study.

[The Clerk]

Sorry, is that the exact wording? I'm just making sure I have this right.

After “reporting to the House”, you want to also include “and that the Minister and his department be invited to testify as part of this study”?

[Lisa Marie Barron, NDP, Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC]

Yes, it reads: “and that that the Minister of Heritage and his department be invited to testify as part of this study.”

[The Clerk]

Thank you very much.

I'm just going to add that, and then I'll come to you, Ms. Thomas. Thank you very much.

This is Ms. Barron's amendment to your motion, which has been amended. The question would be on the amendment of Ms. Barron, however the committee wants to decide that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I will call the question for the committee to vote on this amendment to the amended motion that we agreed on.

We will please call the vote. Those in favour of the amendment to the amended motion? Those in favour? I see no hands up. Those opposed? I don't know. Am I muted or something?

Those in favour of Ms. Barron's amendment as read out by the clerk. Those in favour, can I see your hands? I see no hands—

[Lisa Marie Barron, NDP, Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC]

Can you see my hand?

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

—except for Ms. Barron's hand.

Those opposed? May I see your hands? We're having people abstaining.

[The Clerk]

There are four hands in the room.